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Award-winning actress, writer, producer, and gender equality advocate Lilly Singh has always known how to create space for the conversations that people often don’t realise they need.
And episode 7 of her award-winning podcast Shame Less With Lilly Singh was the most surprising proof of that yet. In a deeply candid episode, Lilly sat down with Ishaan Khatter for a conversation that challenged her, moved her, and left her emotional at certain moments. Ishaan came in dropping bars and didn’t hold back on the honesty.
The episode landed in unexpected places. The confidence people see in Ishaan on screen turned out to be only one part of who he is. The full story is that he is a friend who checks in just because, who pushes the men around him to express instead of shutting down, who sends voice notes asking if you’re okay without realizing how rare that actually is. He’s also spent his career refusing to settle for the obvious roles people expected him to play, choosing instead to build a body of work and a sense of self entirely on his own terms. But it’s what sits underneath all of that which made this episode hit different. Ishaan opened up about growing up surrounded by strong women, watching his own mother set aside her creative dreams to hold everything together. And then he said the line that hit the hardest: “men aren’t raised to be men, they’re raised not to be women.”
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Presented by Lilly’s charity, Unicorn Island Fund, the episode was anchored by that one shift Ishaan named, from raising boys away from something, to raising them toward something, and how much that distinction might actually change. Ishaan Khatter turned out to be the kind of guest willing to sit with discomfort and say the quiet parts out loud, the parts most men refuse to acknowledge. That kind of honesty is exactly what Shame Less was built to achieve, and host Lilly Singh drew it out in this conversation. And with Ishaan Khatter, it was worth every minute.
